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26Q3V10

September 2026

Jeff Long

Dr. Jeffrey Long

Exploring Out-of-Body Experiences:
A Key to Understanding the Reality of Near-Death Experiences

Among the many extraordinary features reported in near-death experiences, the out-of-body experience (OBE) is one of the most scientifically important and intriguing. During an NDE, many experiencers describe a clear awareness of separating from their physical body and observing events from a perspective outside their body. What makes this aspect of NDEs particularly significant is that it raises a fundamental question about consciousness: can awareness and perception occur when the brain is severely impaired or when normal sensory pathways should be unable to function?

If many NDErs accurately perceive events occurring around them while they are unconscious or otherwise unable to obtain that information through ordinary senses, these accounts represent some of the most compelling evidence that

are not possibly explained by physical brain function. For this reason, carefully studying OBEs is central to evaluating the reality and nature of NDEs. At NDERF, we are currently conducting a major research project examining hundreds oof out-of-body experiences in NDE accounts, focusing on the details of reported perceptions, the circumstances surrounding the experiences, and the degree to which these perceptions can be verified. We are developing structured methods to evaluate reports of veridical perception, which are cases in which experiencers describe obtaining accurate information they could not have acquired through normal physical senses. This work includes examining factors such as the clarity of perception, the timing of reported observations, the accuracy of the information, and possible ordinary explanations. By applying careful research methods to these extraordinary accounts, we hope to bring new evidence to give us a deeper understanding of NDEs. The study of OBEs brings NDE research directly to the heart of applying the best scientific methods to better understand NDEs.

Jody Long

Jody Long

Why the Original Story Still Matters

Every near-death experience begins with one person trying to explain something that may be very hard to put into words. That personal account is the heart of NDERF’s work.

Over the years, thousands of people have shared their experiences with NDERF. When these accounts are studied together, researchers can look for common features, compare experiences from different cultures, and learn more about how NDEs may affect people afterward.

But the larger picture is only useful if the individual stories stay true to what people actually reported.

Sometimes an experience may be lightly edited for spelling, punctuation,

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paragraphs, or readability before it is posted publicly. The goal is not to change the story, make it more dramatic, or make it sound like other NDEs. The experiencer’s meaning should always remain the same. New search and computer tools now make it possible to study large numbers of experiences in ways that were not possible years ago. These tools can help us find patterns and connections, but they should never replace the original accounts. In the end, NDERF’s database is made up of thousands of individual stories. Each person trusted us with something deeply personal. Preserving those stories carefully is important both out of respect for the experiencers and for the quality of the research

Spotlight

NDERF Spotlight:  Pastor Vern

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This quarter, we’re honored to spotlight Pastor Vernon Baumgardner.

When Vern had his near-death experience, he wasn’t searching for God.

He had no meaningful religious faith or interest in church, living what he would call a very worldly life. Yet during an experience that would permanently redirect that life, Vern saw a pinpoint of starlight rapidly approaching and expanding until the light responded by identifying itself as “God.” During the experience, after a life review and encountering Jesus, Vern communicated a desire to “work” for Jesus. What followed was not simply a change in belief, but a complete change in the trajectory of his life. In the 50 years since, he entered seminary and went on to spend more than three decades serving in pastoral ministry.

That transformation illustrates one of the most striking features found throughout NDE research: people sometimes emerge from these experiences with profound and enduring changes in their values, spiritual orientation, sense of purpose, and understanding of life and death. It should be stated that many choose to move away from religious institutions after an NDE, but it could also be confidently said that, despite the path an individual takes spiritually, most would share that the experience is bigger than any individual or institutional human belief can comprehend. But Pastor Vern’s story contains a paradox. The direct encounter with Jesus that drew a previously nonreligious man so powerfully toward the Christian Church was not at all well received within the those religious communities he later served. Over decades in ministry, Vern found strikingly few places where he could openly discuss his NDE, or where near-death experiences more broadly could be seriously explored as potentially meaningful spiritual phenomenon to help shape theological understanding. Pastor Vern did not allow that tension to diminish his commitment to the Church. Giving greater weight to the profound reality of what he had experienced, he served within Christianity with even greater fervency, finding deep consistency between the Christ he encountered in his NDE, the biblical Christ, and the virtues held at the heart of Christian teaching. In time, he would also discover another avenue for service, one where both his Christian faith and a serious exploration of near-death experiences could be openly embraced. Years later, well into retirement, Vern shared his experience with the Near-Death Experience Research Foundation and developed an ongoing relationship with the nonprofit side of the organization. What began with sharing his own account gradually became participation in NDERF’s broader mission of research, education, and support. Despite now being in his 80s and having limited time and energy, Vern has repeatedly made himself available to share his experience and pastoral perspective. He has held and been open to one-on-one conversations with other pastors, joined small-group conversations, corresponded with members of our team, and participated in presentations to Christian churches interested in understanding NDEs. In doing so, Pastor Vern has helped attendees explore both the remarkable areas of consistency between NDEs and Christianity and the places where these experiences may challenge familiar theological assumptions. At the heart of it all is drawing attention to the truly indescribable, unconditional love of God through the power of his own account, the serious research into these experiences, and the statistically tens of millions of people globally who have had them. More recently, Vern has continued offering his availability and perspectives as NDERF develops educational presentations for Christian audiences. His contribution is unusual and valuable because he stands on both sides of a divide that is sometimes unnecessarily wide: he is both an NDE experiencer and a pastor with decades of Christian ministry behind him. Encountering Parental Love Rather Than a Courtroom Among the insights Vern has shared, one of the most important concerns judgment. For many people, the phrase “judgment of God” evokes something resembling a courtroom: a distant authority examining our failures and pronouncing a verdict to establish permanent separation. Ironically, Vern came away with a very different understanding, as do so many others who have NDEs, including Christians. The judgment he encountered was inseparable from overwhelming love. A better earthly analogy is not an impersonal judge confronting a defendant, but a loving parent acknowledging and encouraging the love a child shares with others while helping them learn and grow from their choices and how they affect him and others within the larger circle of family and community. For Vern, that distinction matters. Divine love does not eliminate the importance of how we live. It makes how we live even more important. It does not make life a drudgery to dread or avoid, but a place to absorb and grow in. “Life School” Perhaps Vern’s simplest and most memorable description of earthly existence is also one of his most profound—one that resonates with so many others who have this type of experience: “Life School.” Our lives contain joy, suffering, success, failure, relationships, separation, and countless opportunities to learn what love actually requires of us. From the perspective Vern encountered, these experiences are not the entirety of our existence. They are part of an education. And if death is not ultimately the destruction of the person, something remarkable follows from that realization. Fear begins to lose its authority. For Vern, understanding in a very direct way that our deepest self cannot ultimately be harmed gives us greater courage to live and love beyond the limits we ordinarily impose upon ourselves. For Vern, this courage to love and have compassion on the world unconditionally begins where the Great Commandment starts, with loving and knowing God first and allowing that truth to deepen the love we extend to our neighbor. That may be one of the quiet gifts NDE experiencers can offer the rest of us. Vern originally came to NDERF simply as someone willing to tell us what happened to him. Years later, he has become a friend and volunteer who continues helping us ask a larger question: What might happen—what might we discover—if experiencers, researchers, churches, and people who are simply searching for answers were willing to seriously listen to and learn from one another? At NDERF, our role is not to prescribe anyone’s theology. It is to collect experiences, study them, make them available, and create opportunities for thoughtful dialogue about what they may mean. Pastor Vern’s journey reminds us why that dialogue matters. We want to highlight a man who once had little interest in spiritual things, yet in a single extraordinary moment, with no known physical cause, encountered God and Jesus. That experience changed the course of his life. He went on to devote decades to serving others and, many years later, continues helping others consider what he learned from an experience his soul will never forget. Life School, apparently, continues until the very last class. Thank you, Vern!

Another Test

Another Testament to the Power of NDEs

Stories highlighting personal transformation

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Seeing Ourselves in Others

Brandon and Jean both saw a “recording” of their lives played back to them in their NDEs.

“When I was yelling at someone… I was… reliving it as if I were the person being yelled at.

— Brandon D
https://www.nderf.org/Experiences/brandon_d_nde_13248.htm

“During this, I felt what they felt”
— Jean R

https://www.nderf.org/Experiences/1jean_r_nde_6166.html

Comparisons: Jean & Brandon

JEAN R Narrative: “During this, I felt what they felt… I felt their love or their pain or their hurt, by things I had done or said to them.” “Emphasis should be on that golden rule: Love your neighbor as yourself. Take care of each other whenever you can.” Did you have a change in your values and beliefs because of your experience? “Yes. Accepting of all people and where they are in life...” Have your relationships changed specifically because of your experience? “I love… I just try not to judge and maybe I was more prone to that before. I try to love others as unconditionally as I felt loved throughout the experiences.” Are there one or several parts of your experience that are especially meaningful or significant to you? Feeling unconditional love has impacted me most and continually wanting to be worthy of that. BRANDON D Narrative: “They showed the various… moments in my life; private things I had done... I saw, felt, and heard events in first person, second person, and third person. When I was yelling at someone, it was like I was reliving that moment through my own eyes, ears, and mind. But I was also reliving it as if I were the person being yelled at. I could see the look on my face as I was angry and I could hear how condescending I was. I could also see it as an outside observer.” Did you have a change in your values and beliefs because of your experience? Yes. I seek to understand more than I seek to control. Before…I hardly ever cared about understanding. 'You do what I want, is that understood' was my way of thinking. Now, I seek to understand your position first. Have your relationships changed specifically because of your experience? “Yes. I made amends with all the people I could... But I follow the golden rule at all times now.” Are there one or several parts of your experience that are especially meaningful or significant to you? “The life review was very eye-opening. How you treat people matters... Every little thing matters.”

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Seeing Ourselves in Others

Brandon and Jean had very different near-death experiences, yet both returned describing a remarkably similar change in how they understood other people. Two powerful features of their NDEs appear closely related to the increased empathy and positive behavioral changes they describe afterward, features typical of those who have this experience. First, both report an overwhelming peace and love inherent to the experience itself. Brandon describes a healing “absolute peace and tranquility” and later says the only true love is unconditional—love without attachment to relationship or circumstance. Jean describes being “totally saturated in unconditional love” and wanting to become worthy of that love by extending the same nonjudgmental acceptance to others. Though they independently interpret the source of their experiences through their own beliefs about it, both reach and identify the same behavioral conclusion: love others as themselves. The most extraordinary take away is that this golden rule was not learned as metaphorical imperative of morality, it was experienced as a literal truth of reality. Second, both report a review of their lives played back to them, but they are not merely watching past events. They experience them from multiple perspectives and, from other life reviews, we know this happens simultaneously. Brandon describes reliving interactions in first, second, and third person—through his own first-person perspective, from the first-person perspective of the person receiving his behavior, and as an outside observer. Jean simply says, “I felt what they felt.” They experienced how their own words and actions felt on the receiving end as if they were actually the other individual they were interacting with. Brandon recalls yelling at someone and recognizing, “I could see the look on my face as I was angry and I could hear how condescending I was.” Jean similarly describes feeling the love, pain, or hurt others experienced because of things she had done or said. They were on the receiving end of their own behavior, visually seeing and emotionally feeling the impact of their actions. The experience of the other person was experienced as themselves. That is profoundly enlightening and humbling. Few of us live as though every interaction matters enough to be “recorded,” retained, much less played back for us to experience again from another person's point of view. Yet these accounts and life reviews suggest that our thoughts, words, and actions may have consequences for us extending beyond the isolated moment in time and perspective from which we originally experience them, as separated individuals. Most importantly, the moral conclusion and behavioral change is rationally consistent and directly as a result with what they experienced in the powerful loving environment of the NDE and, more specifically, in the life review. Brandon returned wanting to heal the pain he had caused, made amends where he could, and says he now seeks to understanding another person's position rather than controlling it. He explicitly says he follows the Golden Rule. Jean describes herself as loving before her NDE, but says the experience expanded that understanding of unconditional love beyond what she humanly understood and wanted to feel more worthy of it by extending it to others. She returned emphasizing acceptance rather than the judgment she was more prone to, “always putting people first,” and ultimately expressed the same familiar principle: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” Their experiences offer an intriguing window into one of the most consistently reported aftereffects of NDEs: increased empathy and compassion for others. In these accounts, empathy was not simply taught as an external moral virtue. For a brief period, another person's experience became personally immediate and acutely felt. The ordinary boundary between me and you, what I do and what you experience, collapsed. Perhaps that helps explain why the Golden Rule becomes so actionable. In the powerful love of the afterlife, “Do unto others” is not merely an instruction to abstain from wrongdoing, it is an imperative to proactively cultivate good actions. If another person's pain, joy, dignity, and well-being are ultimately connected to our own, then “Love your neighbor as yourself” may represent more than a high moral virtue. It may reflect a deep literal truth about who we really are and the unseen interconnectedness not fully felt in human life. Our physical lives naturally emphasize individuality: my body, my thoughts, my needs, my family. Yet NDErs repeatedly describe an expanded state in which those boundaries become less absolute more unified. Jean expressed this particularly clearly when she said that our physical bodies seem to dull our awareness of the connection between us, while reminding us that “we are ALL connected here too.” This may also help explain the larger social power of compassion. Empathy—learning to see through another person's eyes—creates the conditions for compassion. Compassion encourages cooperation. And cooperation allows human beings to accomplish together what none of us could accomplish alone. The lesson is therefore both spiritually useful and remarkably practical. Families depend upon it. Communities depend upon it. Human civilization itself depends upon individuals restraining some portion of self-interest to work towards, care for, trust in, and enable others. Modern technological advances and the vastly improved general standard of living over thousands of years is the fruit of this principle in action. That is part of the power of NDEs. They don't simply tell experiencers that love and compassion are important. In accounts such as Brandon's and Jean's, they appear to show them why, through direct experience—and the understanding returns with them. NDERF exists in part to preserve and share these experiences in the historical record so that what experiencers learn may also inform the rest of us globally, in over 30 languages. If the profound interconnectedness described by so many NDErs reflects something real and enduring about consciousness, then caring for another person may ultimately be inseparable from caring for ourselves. Share in the love! by Joseph Khasho

NDE 101

NDE 101

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Proof of the Soul?
What veridical perceptions during near-death experiences may tell us about consciousness beyond the body?

By Joseph Khasho In previous NDE 101 installments, we explored reports of consciousness continuing during profound medical crises such as cardiac arrest and trauma-induced unconsciousness. Experiencers frequently describe perceiving themselves outside the body, often observing the scene from above. Upon resuscitation, some report conversations, medical procedures, or other details that correspond to events that actually occurred. Researchers commonly call these veridical perceptions—perceptions that correspond to real events in the physical world and may be independently corroborated. What would it mean if a person could accurately perceive the physical world when the body's ordinary means of perceiving it were profoundly impaired or nonfunctional? The implications are difficult to ignore. If someone accurately perceives an external earthly event at a time and from a position inconsistent with the state and location of the physical body—without ordinary access to the brain-bound physical senses—what is mediating that information, where is the perception occurring, and what does this tell us about consciousness itself? THE EVIDENCE - WHEN SUCH PERCEPTIONS SHOULDN'T BE POSSIBLE Two well-known cases illustrate the challenge to a purely brain-bound understanding of consciousness. In a prospective study of cardiac-arrest survivors published by cardiologist Pim van Lommel and colleagues in The Lancet in 2001, upon resuscitation, one patient recognized a nurse and accurately described how the nurse had removed his dentures during resuscitation and placed them in a crash-cart drawer as they prepared for intubation. The patient reported observing the scene from above, apart from his body. More than a decade later, the multinational AWARE study led by Sam Parnia, published in 2014, reported another striking case. Following cardiac arrest, a patient described observing his resuscitation from an upper corner of the room and accurately recalled people, sounds, and activities associated with the event. These cases sit within a broader literature of prospective and retrospective studies, case reports, and investigations of veridical perception. Dr. Jeffrey Long has also compiled examples of verified out-of-body observations at NDERF. Please email us at contact@nderf.org for a link to those accounts. While subjective perceptions frequently occur, the evidentiary significance changes when a reported perception corresponds to physical reality in a way the experiencer apparently could not have obtained through ordinary body sensory-mediated means. FOLLOWING THE EVIDENCE The strongest argument does not rest on such dramatic observations alone, but on the way several unusual features converge. First, these perceptions appear unidirectional. The experiencer reports observing the physical environment from an external vantage point, while people occupying that environment do not report seeing any corresponding physical observer. There is no visible eye, body, or known sensory pathway to the body at the reported location from which those perceptions are being made; the observer is completely unseen. The idea of one domain permitting observational access to another without reciprocal access has potential parallels in mathematical models involving higher-dimensional geometric relationships. Without requiring us to assume such a model explains these perceptions in NDEs, the mathematical relational premise is noteworthy. Second, these reported out-of-body perceptions are accompanied by a remarkably consistent pattern of unique, enduring aftereffects. Dr. Long’s research at NDERF documents well-known, dramatic, and enduring changes that would rationally follow the claims made in NDEs, including loss of the fear of death, greater meaning and purpose, increased compassion, stronger belief in an afterlife, and a diminished fear of living life. These changes often extend into relationships, spirituality, priorities, and purpose and generally persist throughout an individual’s lifetime. That matters because the aftereffects are rationally consistent with the reported content of the experience itself. People who report encountering overwhelming interconnected love often become more compassionate and empathetic. Those who experience continued consciousness beyond the body frequently lose their fear of death. Those who describe a life review or important work still to do on earth often gain greater self-worth, purpose, and place greater value on relationships than material pursuits. Critically, the perceptions and the transformation therefore point in the same direction. And that brings modern scientific research to a very ancient word: Soul. DEFINING OUR TERMS What Do We Mean by “Soul”? The word immediately evokes religion and theology, but we need neither to begin with it nor exclude it. Consider a simple philosophical definition: The soul is the conscious self—the experiencing “you”—capable of existing within the physical body and potentially apart from it: the seat of self-consciousness. NDErs overwhelmingly describe their experiences as “spiritual.” They may describe their soul as a point of energy or in another substantial physical-like form. More fundamentally, their sense of being so fully themselves continues so naturally (thinking, perceiving, remembering) from their normal physical lives that they may not even realize they have died or experienced a traumatic physical change. So perhaps the question is not scientifically inappropriate at all: If conscious awareness can accurately and unidirectionally perceive the physical world from a location inconsistent with the state and position of the body, without access to its ordinary sensory pathways, while feeling fully whole—or even more than whole—are we observing evidence—perhaps even proof—of what humanity has historically called the soul? EVIDENCE, DEDUCTION, AND "PROOF" Science does not require a complete understanding of a mechanism before accepting and building upon well-established observations. Newton accurately described and predicted gravitational behavior centuries before Einstein fundamentally changed our understanding of how gravity works more accurately. Observation came first then acceptance and increasingly precise explanations followed. The same principle invites a straightforward assessment: If an individual accurately perceives an external event from a location and physical state in which the body's ordinary sensory pathways are unavailable, then that perception was not mediated through those ordinary pathways, it could not have been brain-induced. If the experiencer nevertheless remains a coherent, self-aware observer—thinking, perceiving, remembering, and later accurately reporting the living memory of that event—then the conscious self has demonstrated an ability to function beyond the body's normal sensory-mediated limitations. That leads to a proof, a logical deduction based on a simple definition: If the “soul” is the conscious self capable of functioning apart from the physical body, then verified consciousness operating apart from the body's sensory apparatus constitutes evidence of what humanity has historically called the soul—a clear conclusion that deductively follows from that definition. Yet I have kept “proof” in question form in the title because some may not accept the historical definition of the soul. Nonetheless, the absence of a known mechanism or description does not negate empirically supported observations or reasonable inferences from them, nor should it prevent us from following their implications. Extraordinary claims warrant a high evidentiary standard. Veridical perceptions combined with the unique, enduring aftereffects of NDEs provide compelling evidence worthy of that standard. Intellectual humility works both ways: we should neither claim more than the evidence supports nor dismiss its most direct implications simply because they challenge an existing model. THE AFTERLIFE - FROM DEDUCTION TO INFERENCE The remaining question is how far this independence extends. Here abductive reasoning—inference to the best explanation—complements the deduction. Veridical perception alone cannot establish everything we mean by an afterlife. But NDEs rarely end with the out-of-body experience; for many, that is where the journey begins. Experiencers describe enhanced consciousness, movement beyond the physical environment, encounters with deceased loved ones and other beings, extraordinary landscapes, communication and knowledge seemingly acquired outside ordinary means, life reviews, and overwhelming love. They then return with distinctive, enduring transformations often rationally consistent with what they experienced. The question therefore becomes broader: What explanation best accounts for the totality of the evidence? If consciousness can operate beyond the body's ordinary sensory limitations, the larger NDE raises an even greater possibility. Experiencers consistently describe another spiritual dimension or domain of existence and return with enduring changes that correspond to what they experienced. Taken together, the reported “afterlife” becomes a serious logical inference to the best explanation—an abductive conclusion deserving scientific consideration and investigation. Dr. Long has repeatedly emphasized that no single element needs to carry the argument but many lines of evidence work together. The evidential case is cumulative and remarkably consistent—the very fingerprints of reality. If consciousness can exist apart from the body, where does it go—and what does it encounter? That is where NDE 101 goes next quarter, as we explore what experiencers report beyond the immediate physical environment of an out-of-body experience. Coming next quarter: Movements and Encounters with Beings and Landscapes A thought struck me some time ago that seems fitting here: Hope is not just a decision, it's a destination. Joseph Khasho is an NDERF Board Officer and contributor to the Happenings newsletter.

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